bigby kills crooked man

He wasn't afraid of Nerissa, he was flabbergasted. Are you kidding me?^^ The Crooked man lied in the whole trial. I'd want Bigby on my side. Terms of Service / Privacy Policy. It is also worth mentioning that despite the Crooked Man being sentenced, you will be able to decide about his fate. I mean dont u realized it?^^ U really believed him after the things u see and heard about him? he puts ppl into debt (probably helped, but eventually he would kill the peeps who couldnt afford to pay back). The Crooked Man requests he is kept alive and brought to trial, which is what Snow White wanted, depending on the players decisions, he may or may not be brought to the Fabletown Government for a trial. It would have been easier just to kill Bigby since he's been a huge thorn in his side, but he doesn't. You know. Someone sure as heck was being held as a slave. There's no need to be mad at me. In the next episode he'll talk to Bigby and try to sugarcoat what he's been doing and probably does want Bigby on his side as muscle. I mean why did u think was the crooked man so affraid when nerissa enters the ring? His entire line of defense was "I'm helping you, they're not". held legally accountable for the murders. He was blackmailing crane for decades, knowing the money that he got came from embezzling from Fabletown, and MISUNDERSTANDING doesn't describe the order of kidnapping Crane from LAW ENFORCERS. I think you need to give a more direct order to be convicted of conspiracy to commit murder. grabbed then dragged bigby during his ''trial'', attempting to murder him. You're still the boss, you're still ultimately responsible for any misunderstanding. Because he's a calm, reasonable man who got flabbergasted by her frantic assertiveness. There was no excuse for them to let someone take advantage of them when they all had the power to prevent their problems with their centuries worth of wisdom and knowledge. Crooked Man is probably not as innocent as he claims but like a lot of businesses, the people below you have agency to work in ways for your interest (not every procedure and action is explicitly stated). probably there ain't a strong proof, but we know what's up. beauty and the beast reported to bigby for help. True he did kill his family HOWEVER since he probably did sign the Fable Town charter he was given Amnesty for any crimes commited in the Homelands. The game goes back and forth because at the time it happens, "the truth" was measured by how many people was telling the same story, which usually fell on the side of what the wealthiest or most popular decided, since there was a legion trying to fall on their favors. Episode 3 "A Crooked Mile": He ordered a hit on the game's protagonistBigby Wolfin an attempted to kidnap the towns mayor,Ichabod Crane. If you rip his head off then he achieves his purpose. georgie's reactions in e.5 were completely full of srsness pointed a gun at bigby. We all know that he was guilty, even you know it. Who knows? There is no way to pledge innocence in blackmail, and slave labor, => and yet mr. leatherwolf89 says he's innocent. I think he was guilty because of the way Georgie reacted when he was sold out. Of course the plan doesn't work if CM is actually dead so my shot is CM you kill/imprison is not the real CM. However, tensions quickly flare up between the two, and he offers to give up Georgie Porgie in exchange for an alliance. the whole town is afraid of him, providing that they are already dead because they didnt go according to what he wants. Like how he literally kept them in chains in the back of the butcher shop? The Crooked Man seems like a smart enough man to not order a murder, especially of 2 fables, when it would obviously lead back to him eventually. You don't have anything to do? Enslaved and kept who in debt? Technically speaking, if all he told Georgie to do was "take care of it" or "deal with it" (as Georgie suggested), I'm not sure he could be moreheld legally accountable for the murders. Sorry regardless of what he represents, you have the burden of proof and rarely is the testimony of one person enough to convict this man of some of the crimes he was accused. Pretty brilliant idea. Maybe the Crooked Man just felt like rather than trying to kill Bigby, which could prove to be futile, he'd just try to sway him instead. Many of the characters complaints are very inconsistent with their attitude earlier in the game. Who is the killer of faith wolf among us? So we cant use that against him. He doesn't look suicidal, so he has a plan and definitely a backup ready. => and yet mr. leatherwolf89 says he's innocent. Reminded me of Henry II's "Who will rid me of this meddlesome priest?!". Yes. the whole town is afraid of him, providing that they more are already dead because they didnt go according to what he wants. Snow's indifference/work overload + overly brutal sheriff? Are you kidding me?^^ The Crooked man lied in the whole trial. I think you need to give a more direct order to be convicted of conspiracy to commit murder. He is directly responsible for the series of events that form the central conflict of the game. The way people like the Crooked Man work is they make sure they never actually say anything explicitly which would incriminate themselves for something like murder. probably there ain't a strong proof, but we know what's up. but still, he's guilty in many ways. And conspiracy to murder plus joint enterprise. One of the main ingame. I have no problem clarifying things. 1. you are going edit lot, then make yourself user and login. They tried to kill him because the CM heavily implied that they should. 4. Maybe the murders weren't directly his fault and Georgie really DID misinterpret one of his instructions? I would be more open to the "misunderstood my intent" thing if he hadn't ordered Mary kill to Bigby in the same manner. The Crooked Man didn't lie about anything, the other Fables confirmed his points. He explained how he helped them. interfered with an official murder investigation During his interrogation, Dee claims that Beauty took out a loan from The Crooked Man, which is later corroborated when Bigby asks Beauty about the Tweedles when he is investigating the Open Arms Hotel. Slowing the video down shows that he aimed and shot at someone behind Bigby. => and yet mr. leatherwolf89 says he's innocent. Terms of Service / Privacy Policy. Episode 4: "In Sheep's Clothing" He is mentioned many times throughout the episode by his thugs and finally makes his first appearance at the end of the episode, in his lair with all of his thugs. He wasn't innocent, but lets play he was. That was a point I forgot to make. Crane was then killed by Bigby and he made it look like an accident. He later spares Bigby's life in exchange for the mayor. Does he maybe want Bigby on his side? Bigby manages to track the Crooked Man down to Sheppard Metalworks, and after he defeats Bloody Mary, he takes the Crooked Man to the Witching Well where he is given a trial. 2019 Telltale, Incorporated. He lives and meets with his envoys in the Crooked Lair. You can ask him why would he want a trial if Fables are likely to sentence him to death. The Crooked Man seems like a smart enough man to not order a murder, especially of 2 fables, when it would obviously lead back to him eventually. The whole point of Nerissa/Faith's scheme was to have the Crooked Man outed. Many of which were looking for blood, then in the . Bloody Mary is the main Secondary antagonists in Telltale's The Wolf among us, serving as the major antagonists in Episodes 3 and 5. That was a point I forgot to make. he puts ppl into debt (probably helped, but eventually he would kill the peeps who couldnt afford to pay back). The Crooked Man attacking Bigby with his cuffs as he attempts to escape his sentencing. . He lives and meets with his envoys in the Crooked Lair. Also, if you wait by the door at the end of Ep. The Crooked Man has slowly built himself into one of the most powerful figures in Fabletown. n, whether or not The Crooked Man did actually tell Georgie to kill the girls, The Crooked Man is still somewhat responsible for the acts of his employees. In the trailer there is a scene where Bigby confronts the Crooked Man and he shoots. Plus his 'associates' those who work under him attacked Bigby and nearly killed him multiple times and Georgie murdered under The Crooked Man, whether or not The Crooked Man did actually tell Georgie to kill the girls, The Crooked Man is still somewhat responsible for the acts of his employees. weren't guilty of murders either since they simply ordered it. he puts ppl into debt (probably helped, but eventually he would kill the peeps who couldnt afford to pay back). Bigby Wolf Tears Crooked Man's Throat (Wolf Among Us | Telltale | Fables Final Ending) 302,459 views Dec 16, 2016 One of the alternative choices: Bigby Wolf tears the Crooked Man's. In his rise, The Crooked Man has ensnared many Fables in his criminal web, providing them with what they need, but always at a high cost. Stop wasting your time getting in stupid arguments. We only have the victims' word for what The Crooked Man has done to them, but that is good enough in my opinion. 2. He also uses the Jersey Devil as muscle, with his pawn shop The Lucky Pawn being a front for his loansharking activities. Oops, I'm scrolling on a tiny phone, didn't realize someone had already posted this. Crooked Man pointing a silver-laden revolver at Bigby, as he explains his plan on Fabletown. The question is. The Crooked Man remains polite and calm while being confronted by Bigby, but escapes with Bloody Mary when things turn hostile. I'm not sure that this question needed it's own thread or not, but I'm curious. But that's all irrelevant because Nerissa's confession was later revealed to be a complete lie. Part of the Episode 5: \"Cry Wolf\". WHY!? 3. I would say if you believe he's innocent then you've been duped by him just like everyone else in fabletown. He directly employs the Tweedles and Bloody Mary as his muscle, and has a controlling interest in the Pudding \u0026 Pie, since he and his henchmen show up after Georgie is shown to be making a phone call about a \"problem\" as Snow and Bigby apprehend Ichabod Crane. Watch other \"Wolf Among Us\" videos: http://bit.ly/wolfamong But I don't buy that Crooky was oblivious to the impact of his words. I just wish the game had given you the option of putting CM in holding while you gather more evidence, especially since the girls were now free to speak and CM's minions scattered. However, this greatly angers Georgie Porgie and his girl, Georgie asks for assistance against the other thugs but they all back down, showing them to be greatly fearful of the Crooked Man. Like he said, his associates tried to kill him. Also, Nerissa later admits that her confession was a complete lie. They could have just talked to Bigby about it before shit got worse "Victim blaming" means nothing. Also the way his 'employees' were so ready to kill Bigby in the alley. We are in in the 2010's, when smartphones and social network spread PROOF of things way faster than posses can "repeat lies until they turn true". HOWEVER since he has showed willingness to kill before we can use it against him ;D. Should Snow White answer for the actions of Bigby? Im sry but it seems ur just a fanboy or u luv to discuss things. fables.wikia.com One of the main ingame decisions that you make. I'd like to believe that Bigby did the right thing by bringing him down. are already dead because they didnt go according to what he wants. Villains who aren't revealed to be bad at first. Bigby was still internally debating. As for Bigby's story, I go for the half way Bad Wolf. The way Georgie describes, he assumed that The Crooked Man meant "kill them". I mean why did u think was the crooked man so affraid when nerissa enters the ring? It would've been interesting if he pulled Bigby down with him and prompted a quick time event to pull himself up. Crooked Man is the main antagonist of the 2013- 2014 video game The Wolf Among Us Season 1.He's a Fable and a powerful crime lord who's influence over all of Fabletown matches that of its government and holds much of its population within his grasp via his enforcements. Or , long shot, Vivian. I understand this type of adventure game that has to limit the possibilties, and it's expensive and complicated to make branching conversations, but holy crap. beauty and the beast reported to bigby for help The idea of being trapped in an animal's body and surrounded by mundane animals that don't have the intelligence and power that you have sounds like a fate worse than death or jail. In Scotland, we have 3 verdicts: Guilty, Not Guilty and Not Proven. The only thing more powerful than crushing the spirit of the Big Bad Wolf is to have him do your deeds. Why did the Crooked Man spare Bigby back in Episode Three? They didn't just somehow mutually decided they were all going to hop out of their chairs and start attacking Bigby. Part of the Episode 5: \"Cry Wolf\". I must admit that I still believe he was indeed guilty, but I can see why you'd think he wasn't. kidnapped crane eorgie to resolve the matter without the intent of violence? He's smart enough to know how his lackey Georgie would have interpreted his words. Before Bigby can announce his decision, the Crooked Man uses his cufflinks to strangle Bigby and tries to throw him down the well. That doesn't make them any less guilty, it just makes it harder to prove, there is a difference. I mean why did u think was the crooked man so affraid when nerissa enters the ring? leatherwolf89 i just realised that the CM manipulated you and now your in his pocket :DDD. His reply would be that it's his problem or something. I dont get it i choose to kill the crooked man and after the game it says to me 10,4 % choose kill him. Also, if you wait by the door at the end of Ep. beauty and the beast reported to bigby for help Bigby then counters him, and now can make his decision as the Crooked Man arrogantly taunts the population by saying that they will need him, and that the town will suffer without his guidance. If he was innocent, then why the hell did he shut up when Nerissa spoke? He is directly responsible for the series of events that form the central conflict of the game. Maybe the Crooked Man just felt like rather than trying to kill Bigby, which could prove to be futile, he'd just try to sway him instead. He basely beat up almost all of his henchmen with ease, scary. All rights reserved. His plan would be to make Fabletown afraid of the Wolf. The impact of killing him and realising it might have been for nothing is so much greater when the final twist happens. U are lucky that my english isnt well enough and Im to lazy to prove u that the croocked man are guilty XD and his lies are pathetic. The Crooked Man Tells Bigby Who Killed The prostitutes GhostTheBerserker 29 subscribers Subscribe Like Share No views 55 seconds ago .more .more The Wolf Among Us 2013 Browse game. I think you need to give a more direct order to be convicted of conspiracy to commit murder. [Rip his head off] - You kill the Crooked Man right away. The Crooked Man is a Fable and the main antagonist of The Wolf Among Us. Technically speaking, if all he told Georgie to do was "take care of it" or "deal with it" (as Georgie suggested), I'm not sure he could be held legally accountable for the murders. He still killed his family he's still a murderer. georgie's reactions in e.5 were completely full of srsness, interfered with an official murder investigation. drops BYE! grabbed then dragged bigby during his ''trial'', attempting to murder him. at least we know the crooked man tried to play it well, and he eventually tricked you instead of tricking fabletown!!! The money he loaned from the pawn shop came from illegal ways, he PLANNED AND EXECUTED. Antagonists Wiki is a FANDOM Anime Community. Also pretty cool of her to send Bigby in to take on the crooked man by himself, despite seeing him get an absolute thrashing from Bloody Mary. As for the Crooked Man's choice, it's the same as Dum really. He wanted to crush Bigby, or turn him, and use that as his symbol of strength and power. Imagine being a magical being with the intelligence of a human, but having to trot next to mindless pigs for the rest of your life. Where it's Bigby trying to redeem himself but occasionally falls back into his Wolf tendencies. Could Georgie have deal with the matter in another way? Plus his 'associates' those who work under him attacked Bigby and nearly killed him multiple times and Georgie murdered under The Crooked Ma moren, whether or not The Crooked Man did actually tell Georgie to kill the girls, The Crooked Man is still somewhat responsible for the acts of his employees. interfered with an official murder investigation Im sry but it seems ur just a fanboy or u luv to discuss things. The characte ris cool yes. They only didn't kill him because they were 'ordered' not to. The Crooked Man seems like a smart enough man to not order a murder, especially of 2 fables, when it would obviously lead back to him eventually. He DISTRIBUTED THE STUFF. If Bigby kills the Crooked Man, he can shut up the entire room during the later argument with a growl. fables.wikia.com. July 2014. Bigby in the comics kills Crane because he betrayed Fabletown and had rape fantasies of Snow. shot near him (threatened he wont miss next time) 4 and listen for a bit, you can hear the Crooked Man's voice saying something along the lines of "He'll come around." georgie's reactions in e.5 were completely full of srsness Even if he didn't kill those girls, he was just plain bad for Fabletown. Bigby is extremely powerful, and even though he was weakened by the silver bullet at the time, even though Mary had the Woodsman's axe, there's still no guarantee that she could have completely "killed" him. The Crooked Man hands Georgie over to Bigby, infuriating Georgie. It was for HIS OWN protection. Remember the ankle chains covered in blood at the butcher's shop? He had lots of chances to riddle him with silver, he didn't opt for that. But not anymore The first mention of the Crooked Man comes if Bigby decides to capture Tweedledee in the Trip Trap. The people acted irrationally and that's not the Fabletown Snow and Bigby were trying to promote. Episode 3 "A Crooked Mile" : He ordered a hit on the game's protagonist Bigby Wolf in an attempted to kidnap the towns mayor . Plus, Nerissa just flat out lied about him giving the order. Plus his 'associates' those who work under him attacked Bigby and nearly killed him multiple times and Georgie murdered under The Crooked Man, whether or not The Crooked Man did actually tell Georgie to kill the girls, The Crooked Man is still somewhat responsible for the acts of his employees. Bigby throws Crooked Man into Witching Well. A tense standoff occurs between the two due to him holding a gun fully loaded with silver bullets (Which would kill Bigby instantly). The Crooked Man will be sentenced for ordering the killing of two women. Manage all your favorite fandoms in one place! EDIT: As many people pointed out, he probably fired a . He was still an asshole, good enough reason for me to kill him. Seriusly only 10,4? Georgie The Crooked Man reveals Georgie as Faith and Lily's killer and claims he misunderstood his orders to deal with them, but Georgie asserts the Crooked Man told him to kill the women. He also has a large stake in the Fabletown government, revealed when Crane was embezzling to pay him off. heard about him? The Crooked Man is not guilty of the murders, that's the whole point of this thread. He was only reacting like any person would react after they're falsely accused and sentenced. kidnapped crane The rest bring him alive. Personally I would say he is guilty. If it wasn't revealed, it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. You know. Considering the end of the chapter, which is also the end of the first season, this choice will have its consequences in later adventures of Bigby Wolf. Bloody Mary is a sadistic murderer who longs to find ways to continue murdering as she pleases. Depending on how you play him, he uses excessive force on Gren, beats Dee/Woody during an interrogation, kills Dum. Put his minions by force there, threatening him, and using shackled slave labor to make his goods, thus making it cheaper than the legit stuff. Other than that, enjoy Villains Wiki READ MORE Villains Wiki Explore Main. Crooked Manis the main antagonist of the 2013- 2014 video gameThe Wolf Among Us Season 1.He's a Fable and a powerful crime lord who's influence over all of Fabletown matches that of its government and holds much of its population within his grasp via his enforcements. \"Wolf Among Us\" Telltale PC Game. What if he only meant for Georgie to resolve the matter without the intent of violence? As much as I don't want it to be true, I think it's Nerissa. Crane was protected with OFFICIAL REPRESENTATIVES, who the hell he is to say it was for CRANE's protection that he took him from the LAW? She is . who is he shooting? 2019 Telltale, Incorporated. Unsurprisingly, alongside Bluebeard, he is one of the most hated characters in the game, both by fans and even the other characters in-game. As the Crooked Man's primary enforcer, she acts as his ace in the hole when he wants to guarantee a job gets done or there's a person that needs to die. this site. Edit much you wish, but one little thing. I killed the crooked man and the ending brings out my biggest complaint of this game. His operation started with a crooked sixpence and a crooked house - two things he cared about more than his wife or children, whom he killed rather than let them stand in his way. He is encountered again at a large foundry after Bigby kills Bloody Mary. shot near him (threatened he wont miss next time). Killing Bigby would only make a martyr of him and people could use him as a symbol of hope. Alternately, after tracking through five episodes of bullshit and subterfuge to get to the bottom of who exactly is corrupting Fabletown, you can drag the Crooked Man before a court and then tear his head off and throw it into the Well in . In the game, players control Bigby Wolf, the sheriff of Fabletown - a clandestine community within 1980s New York City consisting of various fantastical characters from fairy tales and folklore - and must investigate a series of mysterious murders; the first ones to occur in Fabletown in a long time. The CM saw he wasn't going to be able to get Bigby to cooperate, so he told his goons to kill him. What more could he want. Plus, Nerissa just flat out lied about him giving the order. Episode 3: A Crooked Mile Crooked Man didn't want Bigby dead. He is the puppeteer responsible for ordering the murders of Faith and Lily. If he simply had Bigby killed in the alleyway, no one would have been left to oppose him. Given that this takes place before the comics, I'd say it's very likely that Bigby would kill Dum (he fired at Fabletown residents with a shotgun ffs). > He is cunning, persuasive, and ruthless \"Wolf Among Us\" Telltale PC Game. probably there ain't a strong proof, but we know what's up. If you do this, changing your mind from the last choice, all of the people . What if he only meant for G moreeorgie to resolve the matter without the intent of violence? Maybe that's what he wants to talk to Bigby about at the end of Episode Four. Episode 5 "Cry Wolf" The episode begins within his lair, with him being warm and welcoming towards the sheriff. What does that say about the relationships and general practices of that group? > It was precisely the point. prink34320. 4 and listen for a bit, you can hear the Crooked Man's voice saying something along the lines of "He'll come around.". FFS, stop being an airhead on "Poor crooked man's innocence", it might stick in the 80's, but today it's known bullshit. Im sry but it seems ur just a fanboy or u luv to discuss things. The way Georgie describes, he assumed that The Crooked Man meant "kill them". No actual slave from the butcher shop was revealed, though. With OP's logic, Hitler, Stalin, etc. He did try to kill Bigby, he let everybody attack him. Tell me why i only see the reason Miss Snow say bring him alive. I think that him wanting Bigby on his side is a very good guess. Plus, Nerissa just flat out lied about him giving the order. The real question is whether or not those were pre amnesty days. It's also pretty rich that Snow blames Bigby for winding up in violent situations - she chastises him for killing one of the Tweedles, so I guess she blanked on them repeatedly shooting Bigby with shotguns? Eventually, all the thugs get in a fight with Bigby and the Crooked Man and Bloody Mary escape to his limo. All rights reserved. But not anymore. Watch other \"Wolf Among Us\" videos: http://bit.ly/wolfamong Like Bluebeard killing his wives, people aren't allowed to talk about it. He actually hadn't been sentenced yet. I think that beating was just a warning on what he was dealing with to make Bigby think hard if he really wants to oppose them. I mean dont u realized it?^^ U really believed him after the things u see and more heard about him? Which is why I think he's just as guilty as the Crooked Man is, if not moreso. grabbed then dragged bigby during his ''trial'', attempting to murder him. I admit it would be difficult to prove in a proper trial, but again that doesn't make him innocent. The Crooked Man meets Bigby. He managed to survive a run in with that axe before, after all. The Crooked Man hearing from his right-hand woman Bloody Mary, that she will finish Bigby off quickly so that he wouldn't get near him. 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